tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post3101483916814190927..comments2023-07-06T06:03:42.275+02:00Comments on Alex's phonetic thoughts: The London Olympic GamesAlex Rotatorihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-72318403802041218232012-08-05T19:21:40.754+02:002012-08-05T19:21:40.754+02:00I have all three editions. The /di-/ pronunciation...I have all three editions. The /di-/ pronunciation only appears in LPD3, where John Wells explains:<br /><br />"Entries for words containing be-, de-, e-, pre-, re- and se- (also rede-, unre- etc.) have been simplified. When unstressed, these prefixes are now shown with i. This reflects the fact that, like words ending in i, such as happy, they may be pronounced indifferently with ɪ or iː." (p.xiii)Alex Rotatorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-55491370826978560862012-08-05T17:37:36.015+02:002012-08-05T17:37:36.015+02:00@Alex:
Actually, in my LPD (1st ed), the /dilaɪtɪ...@Alex:<br /><br />Actually, in my LPD (1st ed), the /dilaɪtɪd/ pronunciation is given a non-RP dagger. Maybe you have a later edition.vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-454361781150134782012-08-05T09:29:24.418+02:002012-08-05T09:29:24.418+02:00That's interesting. I've noticed from his...That's interesting. I've noticed from his blogposts that JCW sometimes has the happY vowel in pretonic syllables where that pronunciation sounds very odd to me.<br /><br />I would only ever do that where the happY vowel is either morpheme-final or prevocalic. Here, I can't see "delighted" as consisting of two morphemes: "de- -lighted", so I would have to use /ɪ/ rather than /i/.<br /><br />Perhaps it's a generational thing (I'm in my late 30s, grew up speaking near-RP in the English midlands).vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-79161514958118653232012-08-05T08:18:29.619+02:002012-08-05T08:18:29.619+02:00It seems I'm not the only one to use this pron...It seems I'm not the only one to use this pronunciation. John Wells, too, recommends it as a model for EFL learners (LPD, p.218).Alex Rotatorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-19962553636811897272012-08-04T19:04:50.328+02:002012-08-04T19:04:50.328+02:00Don't think I've ever heard /dilaɪtɪd/ for...Don't think I've ever heard /dilaɪtɪd/ for "delighted", except perhaps in comical over-exaggeration.vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.com