tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post6938286391532112348..comments2023-07-06T06:03:42.275+02:00Comments on Alex's phonetic thoughts: Another horror story from ItalyAlex Rotatorihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-66185547944314051172013-02-09T08:26:59.788+01:002013-02-09T08:26:59.788+01:00" You showed in your video about the Garzanti..." You showed in your video about the Garzanti dictionary that the phonetic spelling they used for many words was somehow misleading for students..."<br /><br />Not the "phonetic spelling" but the transcriptions I discussed in my video were wrong. Alex Rotatorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-3717560604481312572013-02-08T21:23:32.704+01:002013-02-08T21:23:32.704+01:00I've attended a 'liceo linguistico' an...I've attended a 'liceo linguistico' and my English teacher was really bad, all that I know of English I've learnt by myself and on summer courses in England. In school they NEVER taught us how to read and use the IPA... You showed in your video about the Garzanti dictionary that the phonetic spelling they used for many words was somehow misleading for students... I think that teachers should teach their students how to read the IPA in the first place, and from this article I see why they don't.Zwarte Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07531851334847202938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-9271623530019640082013-02-08T09:44:54.181+01:002013-02-08T09:44:54.181+01:00They really should!They really should!Alex Rotatorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-72031415219646370412013-02-07T22:25:16.067+01:002013-02-07T22:25:16.067+01:00Judging by the English teachers I've had in sc...Judging by the English teachers I've had in school (except for one who was very good and helped me develop my interest in languages), I have to say that, sadly, I'm not surprised... It is really shocking btw that they didn't even care about checking if what they were about to publish was right. Those are things that you learn since your first year at university; I study German and Dutch, not English, and yet even I know that what they wrote is wrong.<br />The most shocking thing, though, is that this book is meant for teachers... disgusting.<br />They really should be ashamed of themselves. Zwarte Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07531851334847202938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-33185919685575363972012-12-14T21:00:20.305+01:002012-12-14T21:00:20.305+01:00Don't know... Still haven't received any a...Don't know... Still haven't received any answer...Alex Rotatorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-40498670194161954122012-12-14T20:48:16.688+01:002012-12-14T20:48:16.688+01:00Any hope they will care to reply?Any hope they will care to reply?Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-50685942363701171752012-12-14T09:21:21.740+01:002012-12-14T09:21:21.740+01:00I see, Paola. That's utterly unacceptable!!!I see, Paola. That's utterly unacceptable!!!Alex Rotatorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-65526189680855472212012-12-13T23:35:24.879+01:002012-12-13T23:35:24.879+01:00I mean primary school teachers with a university d...I mean primary school teachers with a university degree in English, who used to teach English to pupils of different classes. In the last few years they have been forced to teach all subjects to just one class (as a "maestro unico"), while teachers who had never studied English before have to teach it after a 100-hour course, just enough to reach an A1 level. Some of my pupils have been taught to ask "May I go to the V.C.?" <br />MPaolaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-19439511113720079992012-12-13T21:02:14.952+01:002012-12-13T21:02:14.952+01:00Paola, what do you mean by "specialized Engli...Paola, what do you mean by "specialized English teachers in primary school"?Alex Rotatorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-49594355919306201082012-12-13T16:17:00.126+01:002012-12-13T16:17:00.126+01:00Because pronunciation (or grammar,or overall corre...Because pronunciation (or grammar,or overall correctness) is not important in a school system where it is enough for a primary school teacher to have an A1 level to be allowed - I should say forced - to teach English to six- and seven year-old children. This way the pupils' pronunciation, as well as any other competences, will be thoroughly spoilt and later (I teach at secondary school) it will be very difficult to make them understand that what their teacher taught them was completely wrong. I do not think that the MoE, who cancelled the specialized English teachers in primary school in an effort to cut expenses, will be worried. <br />MPaola <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-17822980043504604662012-12-10T17:37:48.742+01:002012-12-10T17:37:48.742+01:00Did it this morning soon after publishing this pos...Did it this morning soon after publishing this post.Alex Rotatorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-6842360150716938812012-12-10T14:34:19.544+01:002012-12-10T14:34:19.544+01:00Alex, why don't you send the publishers and th...Alex, why don't you send the publishers and the MoE a letter so they know that at least someone's detected this shameful rubbish?Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-39012721200738269122012-12-10T12:32:09.676+01:002012-12-10T12:32:09.676+01:00Sie nennen es Zeitgeist.Sie nennen es Zeitgeist.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01762196203762970377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-8354154967759587572012-12-10T12:04:19.622+01:002012-12-10T12:04:19.622+01:00It doesn't surprise me either!It doesn't surprise me either!Alex Rotatorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15221253493502707131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458071334276688877.post-31754790861045410862012-12-10T11:59:24.359+01:002012-12-10T11:59:24.359+01:00es wundert mich leider nicht..es wundert mich leider nicht..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07164556226331492698noreply@blogger.com